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SMP reverted back to 1.13

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Yesterday SMP was down for maintenance, the reason for this was the upgrade to 1.14. We've been working on converting our plugins and systems to be compatible with 1.14 and waiting for it to be stable enough to play. We've run tests on anything we could think off before we made the change on our production SMP game mode.

SMP has after the upgrade, not been running very well on 1.14. From what we've seen stability wise 1.14 is worse than the switch to 1.13 was in terms of lag. The new content seemed very liked, but many of our players were scared off as a result of the amount of delay, we've seen these comparing statistics to last weekend.

We have been looking to improve the performance of SMP, but the main problem doesn't seem solvable in a matter of days if at all. We hope that the Spigot team can make 1.14 more stable in terms of performance, so maybe in the future, we can try out upgrading to 1.14 again.

We've therefore decided to roll back to 1.13, and your progress is back to where it was right before the upgrade to 1.14. We're very sorry for those who liked the change to 1.14, we also very much liked the pandas and other things 1.14 introduced, but it needs to be playable! We're sorry for the inconvenience this has caused, and the lost playtime you had since the upgrade made yesterday evening.
 

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I know I made a rant post about this and seem like I'm 100% against the revert, but I do see both sides and respect your decision. Just wanted to let you know
 
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#3
Rip ‘‘tis was a good decision
 

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well, its sad, but i understand
 

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they value stability over things players want. chat was spammed with things like #backto1.14, #revert, etc etc more than people wanting to keep 1.13

although i must admit, i'm a bit biased. i prefer 1.14 and can't really play anything else (except for 1.8.9)
 

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smp shouldn’t have been updated to 1.14 in the first place. if it was, then it should probably stay in 1.14. just my opinion tho
 

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Yesterday SMP was down for maintenance, the reason for this was the upgrade to 1.14. We've been working on converting our plugins and systems to be compatible with 1.14 and waiting for it to be stable enough to play. We've run tests on anything we could think off before we made the change on our production SMP game mode.

SMP has after the upgrade, not been running very well on 1.14. From what we've seen stability wise 1.14 is worse than the switch to 1.13 was in terms of lag. The new content seemed very liked, but many of our players were scared off as a result of the amount of delay, we've seen these comparing statistics to last weekend.

We have been looking to improve the performance of SMP, but the main problem doesn't seem solvable in a matter of days if at all. We hope that the Spigot team can make 1.14 more stable in terms of performance, so maybe in the future, we can try out upgrading to 1.14 again.

We've therefore decided to roll back to 1.13, and your progress is back to where it was right before the upgrade to 1.14. We're very sorry for those who liked the change to 1.14, we also very much liked the pandas and other things 1.14 introduced, but it needs to be playable! We're sorry for the inconvenience this has caused, and the lost playtime you had since the upgrade made yesterday evening.
I had no idea this happened while I was gone but smart play reverting back I would have loved to play 1.14 but I hate lag and would rather play 1.13 with no lag.
 

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smp shouldn’t have been updated to 1.14 in the first place. if it was, then it should probably stay in 1.14. just my opinion tho
I think we all like to get to play with new content on SMP, but the way it panned out was just too bad in terms of lag. You don't know how these things actually work until you put it in production. We've run several tests to ensure gameplay itself 'worked' and hoped it would just be a matter of us fixing anything in our own systems that could be preventing an acceptable gameplay experience.
 

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I'm actually pretty glad about this revert. Although it would've been amazing with the new blocks and features, many farms were ruined due to the change. (Such as iron farms due to the new villager mechanics.) Many people are glad about the revert, and we thank you for that. Many people actually signed a petition for 1.13.2 SMP back as soon as it changed because it was pretty much unplayable. Before changing versions in the future, have a poll for the SMP players to vote on whether or not they want 1.14.2 SMP because the players should have a say in these kinds of major changes!
 

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#11
Feel like next time test if it works first before you have to risk a rollback.

Sad to see a change happen to get removed right after.
 

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For me, I am fine either way but I would like it to be less laggy then have the changes that 1.14 had.
But for me I kind of want it to stay on 1.13 because The whole SMP reset was based on 1.13 and maybe later when all the multiplayer things are fixed my Mojang you can try again for a reset on 1.15 (If/when that comes out) Also I agree on what PigMatt said and next time try it in private. I could go any way with this and I am fine with whatever the staff what.
 

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#13
they value stability over things players want. chat was spammed with things like #backto1.14, #revert, etc etc more than people wanting to keep 1.13
its a known issue that 1.14 is highly unstable. Be thankful they had backups and measures in place if needed to revert
 

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Feel like next time test if it works first before you have to risk a rollback.

Sad to see a change happen to get removed right after.
We did several tests, however, it's hard to reproduce the situation you have on production without running it in production. The results of even testing lag can be very biased.
 

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#15
Big rip. Any ideas when we will get 1. 14 back?
 

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#16
No worries. If you do go back that would be sick as well!
 

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Yesterday SMP was down for maintenance, the reason for this was the upgrade to 1.14. We've been working on converting our plugins and systems to be compatible with 1.14 and waiting for it to be stable enough to play. We've run tests on anything we could think off before we made the change on our production SMP game mode.

SMP has after the upgrade, not been running very well on 1.14. From what we've seen stability wise 1.14 is worse than the switch to 1.13 was in terms of lag. The new content seemed very liked, but many of our players were scared off as a result of the amount of delay, we've seen these comparing statistics to last weekend.

We have been looking to improve the performance of SMP, but the main problem doesn't seem solvable in a matter of days if at all. We hope that the Spigot team can make 1.14 more stable in terms of performance, so maybe in the future, we can try out upgrading to 1.14 again.

We've therefore decided to roll back to 1.13, and your progress is back to where it was right before the upgrade to 1.14. We're very sorry for those who liked the change to 1.14, we also very much liked the pandas and other things 1.14 introduced, but it needs to be playable! We're sorry for the inconvenience this has caused, and the lost playtime you had since the upgrade made yesterday evening.
i guess this means that on smp we are stuck on 1.13 indefinitly????
And that itll be when 1.16 comes out when 1.14 comes to smp? xD (its a joke)
 
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#18
im glad you reverted it, i didn't like the 1.14 SMP
 

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lol the 1.14 was so laggy, glad you changed from 1.14 -> 1.13, I was lagging like crazy before
 

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i guess this means that on smp we are stuck on 1.13 indefinitly????
And that itll be when 1.16 comes out when 1.14 comes to smp? xD (its a joke)
They will most likely skip 1.14 to say 1.15 if it has better stability issues.
 
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